Who is the anonymous Andrew Gilligan commenter?

My Andrew Gil­ligan post attrac­ted a couple of anonym­ous com­ments, appar­ently by the same author.

Who could the anonym­ous author be? Well online, noth­ing is really anonym­ous — now is it? Take a look at this screen­shot for a moment while we play Inter­net detective…

[APOLOGIESTHE SCREENSHOT THAT WAS HERE HAS DISAPPEARED — 22.11.08]

So it’s someone who is:

  1. using an Asso­ci­ated News­pa­pers IP (pub­lish­ers of the Even­ing Stand­ard, Daily Mail etc.);
  2. online in the middle of the night — pos­sibly entirely noc­turnal;
  3. link­ing from a tech­nor­ati search set up to track all blog post­ings on the name Andrew Gil­ligan.

Can any­one solve this conundrum?

6 thoughts on “Who is the anonymous Andrew Gilligan commenter?

  1. Hate to say it, but you could be accused of “stitch­ing up” a source your­self here. (Not that you prom­ised them anonym­ity, except through the kind of impli­cit nature of leav­ing an anonym­ous com­ment on your site.)

    To me, the biggest prob­lem with the Gil­ligan case is that there were people in the Brit­ish Gov­ern­ment intent upon pub­lic­ally reveal­ing and attack­ing the source, even though they were essen­tially correct.

    Under such cir­cum­stances — and with so much pres­sure brought to bear on mul­tiple fronts — Gil­ligan might not have been able to pro­tect his source, period. Could he have done bet­ter? Cer­tainly. But it was the government’s intent to “shoot the mes­sen­ger”, so to speak.

    This is obvi­ously a very sens­it­ive mat­ter for Gil­ligan, for his friends and col­legues, and, of course, for any­one who knew Dr. Kelly. I think it’s kind of inap­pro­pri­ate under the cir­cum­stances to treat it like some aca­demic exercise.

    If you don’t respect Gil­ligan as a journ­al­ist, that’s one thing… but I think he deserves a bit more respect as a human being who was in a very dif­fi­cult situ­ation. Mis­takes were made, sure… but I’d per­son­ally like to think that Andrew Gil­ligan had a bit more room for redemp­tion and a bit less per­sonal blame heaped upon him than the people who actu­ally star­ted the war, and who went out of their way to ruin Dr. Kelly’s life.

  2. @Mark — fair play Mark, the com­ments allow the oppor­tun­ity for anonym­ity but caveat com­menter. I’d argue that no one on this blog is a source — they’re par­ti­cipants in a discussion.

    Gil­ligan reopened this on the Guard­ian web­site. If it’s very sens­it­ive for him, I sug­gest he keeps quiet about it. I chose to respond here.

    I teach journ­al­ism, so everything I do is an aca­demic exer­cise. But I do reserve the right to con­test attempts at rewrit­ing his­tory — and I don’t think that’s a point­less pur­suit. You’re wel­come not to agree on both points.

    As for respect­ing Gil­ligan as a journ­al­ist? I don’t respect what he did over Hut­ton pro­fes­sion­ally, and I haven’t heard any­thing from him since that has made me change my mind. That’s all.

  3. As a per­son who isn’t a “pro­fes­sional journ­al­ist”, but who loves get­ting at the truth and believes that the fore­most good that the media can accom­plish is to give the pub­lic the facts they need to make informed decisions, I think that these posts high­light part of a lar­ger problem.

    When you have a team of pro­sec­utors in an Amer­ican courtroom, and when one of the pro­sec­utors ques­tions a wit­ness in such a way that is essen­tially true but that poten­tially under­mines their line of ques­tion­ing, allow­ing the wit­ness to appar­ently tell a lie to the jury and get away with it, you don’t sud­denly get all the other pro­sec­utors drag­ging that pro­sec­utor aside, openly cri­ti­ciz­ing them, and then kick­ing them off the team.

    Instead, the other pro­sec­utors talk to the judge, and the wit­ness is reclas­si­fied as a hos­tile wit­ness, and the law­yers go back on the attack as a team, because their higher duty is to reveal­ing the truth, to the pub­lic, and to bring­ing the guilty to task.

    When the media “eats their own”, the people who are lying to you have a good laugh at your — and the public’s — col­lect­ive expense. And, the sad thing is, the media always seems to make mis­takes some­where if you look hard enough.

    Dan Rather, for example, was obvi­ously a very seasoned pro­fes­sional, and was widely thought of as the best in the busi­ness… but now that he’s going to con­sid­er­able per­sonal expense to pur­chase have his day in court — a “day in court” that the media never really gave him — the media are mer­ci­lessly cri­ti­ciz­ing him for not accept­ing the judge­ment of history.

    I’m sorry, but his­tory is often wrong, and I believe Dan Rather was essen­tially cor­rect… and that the media has dropped the ball, bigtime.

    Exam­ine, for instance, this doc­u­ment that came out in late 2005, quite a few months after Bush’s mil­it­ary records were already writ­ten off by the media as forgeries.

    The doc­u­ment spe­cific­ally men­tions that Mary Mapes and Mike Smith — formerly of CBS News — provided a doc­u­ments expert with high-quality, unfaxed cop­ies of the memos that every­one ana­lyzed as poor qual­ity, pixelated, repeatedly faxed doc­u­ments, and that the doc­u­ments expert spe­cific­ally con­cluded that Bush’s mil­it­ary records were def­in­itely typed, and not forged using MS Word as crit­ics had alleged.

    Recently, Dan Rather told Larry King some­thing that many people thought was an almost delu­sional state­ment, to the effect that the doc­u­ments were never shown to be for­ger­ies, and he still thinks that they may be authentic.

    So, where is the media on this big story? Are any of them reex­amin­ing the high-quality doc­u­ments? No… they’re attack­ing one of their own, while defend­ing ortho­doxy and the judge­ment of his­tory, try­ing to keep their col­lect­ive story straight.

    In the past few weeks, I’ve heard Rather described as senile, a has-been, arrog­ant, egot­ist­ical, a show­man, overly dra­matic, overly emo­tional… not being con­tent for being respons­ible for the fire that burnt down the house that Mur­row built, he’s out to des­troy the ruins and salt the ground, etc, etc. And not only from con­ser­vat­ives… but from a LOT of the so-called “lib­eral media”.

    My only thought is ‘where are the facts?” Isn’t this hor­ribly unpro­fes­sional beha­vior that only serves to bias jur­ies and that helps to vac­cin­ate the pub­lic from any truths that might be dis­covered if Rather wins? Indeed, if he does win, will the media change their ver­dict? Unlikely.

    More and more, it appears that the media func­tions as a kind of watered-down “truth by con­sensus”, which, all too often bears little resemb­lance to actual real­ity. And yet, all too often they seem to cling to that “truth” as if their earth stood at the cen­ter of exist­ence, and everything else rotated around it.

    No won­der blogs, for all their faults, are an increas­ingly pop­u­lar news source. At least they know where their loy­alty lies.

  4. “If it’s very sens­it­ive for him, I sug­gest he keeps quiet about it.”

    Of course it’s a very sens­it­ive issue for him, Adrian. On one sense, he’s being blamed by some for a man’s death. On the other, he pre­sum­ably believes in his story and that he’s been unfairly judged. That, pre­sum­ably, is why he can’t keep silent.

    Just because he made mis­takes, that doesn’t mean he no longer has the right to speak to a lar­ger truth that so many in the media ignored. That’s the sense I get from what he wrote, frankly. It’s entirely pos­sible that he made regret­table mis­takes while still being fac­tu­ally correct.

    Back when Gil­ligan was research­ing the “dodgy dossiers”, it was abund­antly clear to many in the press that gov­ern­ment claims were sig­ni­fic­antly at odds with real­ity. If Gil­ligan is judged in a less harsh light by the pub­lic than by some of his col­legues, then I would argue it is because at least he had the chutzpah to say that the emperor had no clothes.

    “I teach journ­al­ism, so everything I do is an aca­demic exercise.”

    Of course. Who here isn’t inter­ested in the aca­demic side of journ­al­ism? But that said, I would argue that there is a place for try­ing to build uncrit­ical, reasoned chan­nels of com­mu­nic­a­tion, even in the world of aca­demia. Estab­lish­ing the facts should always come before judgement.

    Adrian, if I had — or thought I had — Andrew Gil­ligan com­ment­ing on my blog (albeit anonym­ously), my ini­tial reac­tion would be to try to draw him into the dis­cus­sion in a more offi­cial sense, so that maybe I could hear his side of the story and maybe learn a bit more. You seemed more intent in count­ing coup than in cre­at­ing a mean­ing­ful dialogue.

    “But I do reserve the right to con­test attempts at rewrit­ing his­tory — and I don’t think that’s a point­less pursuit.”

    I don’t think that the art­icle rewrote his­tory, as much as it showed another side of the his­tory. His­tory is not a one-sided entity.

    “I don’t respect what he did over Hut­ton pro­fes­sion­ally, and I haven’t heard any­thing from him since that has made me change my mind.”

    I don’t have a lot of appre­ci­ation for what I heard Gil­ligan did, as depic­ted by what I con­sider to be a some­what biased source — the government’s report. Like­wise, I, too, haven’t heard any­thing from Gil­ligan since that would make me change my mind… but I would argue that per­haps he hasn’t been given much of an unob­struc­ted chance to speak his mind. Aca­dem­ics have the bene­fit of time and reflec­tion to make sure they get the story right… or at least “more right” than the media, which estab­lishes truth within a rather lim­ited timeframe.

    Before I judged Andrew Gil­ligan too harshly, I would prefer hear­ing him speak for him­self. As an aca­demic, I would take full advant­age of the some­what rare oppor­tun­ity to have the time to reflect upon such ser­i­ous stories.

    Unfor­tu­nately, I think you may have may have missed that opportunity.

  5. @Mark — Gil­ligan has plenty of plat­forms from which to put his views and no short­age of supporters.

    To be hon­est, the reason I pos­ted this is because — if it is AG — anonym­ously com­ment­ing on your own behalf sucks (as does talk­ing about your­self in the third person).

    And the Hut­ton Inquiry web­site has most of the evid­ence you need to form your own opin­ion, whether you agree with Lord H or not.

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