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	<title>Comments on: Interns. Selecting out the news?</title>
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		<title>By: Adrian Monck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Monck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socialisation is part of story selection, but actually context is also really important. Journalists are also continually benchmarking their editorial judgments against more &#039;successful&#039; competitors...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Socialisation is part of story selection, but actually context is also really important. Journalists are also continually benchmarking their editorial judgments against more ‘successful’ competitors…</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Charlie on this one.  I think the problem is the institutional socialisation of news values. In order to move on in news organisations interns or students are called upon to internalise the news values of the existing senior staff. This leads to a uniformity in the selection of news. When selecting news, students have to learn what their news editor thinks is &#039;a good idea&#039; for a news story. I know, because I&#039;ve been there. You might think that this makes sense because the news editor has greater experience and often this is the case. I&#039;m not for a moment suggesting that students know it all - they still obviously have a lot to learn.  But we might well also ask how this very experience might hinder selection of stories that don&#039;t fit with what the news editor has come to think of as &#039;news&#039; - him- or herself a product of the organisational setting. 

Apart from the obvious &#039;wow&#039; stories, I think that if there is any method in story selection, it&#039;s a learned institutional process, and at times there is a methodical non-method when selection of news is based on the availibility of resources, time pressure, the interests of a particular news editor, ease of access - &#039;we&#039;ll use PA/PR/wires&#039; etc.  Some editors nevertheless continue to place faith in their ability to make what they see as objective news judgements - and they have to, in order to justify their editorial decisions.  

We can only benefit from hearing stories and news selections from people who are outside of the &#039;news factory&#039;, which is why blogs are so important to the future of media and perhaps why, as a recently qualified MA journalism student,  I&#039;m already thinking about whether my future lies within a traditional news organisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Charlie on this one.  I think the problem is the institutional socialisation of news values. In order to move on in news organisations interns or students are called upon to internalise the news values of the existing senior staff. This leads to a uniformity in the selection of news. When selecting news, students have to learn what their news editor thinks is ‘a good idea’ for a news story. I know, because I’ve been there. You might think that this makes sense because the news editor has greater experience and often this is the case. I’m not for a moment suggesting that students know it all — they still obviously have a lot to learn.  But we might well also ask how this very experience might hinder selection of stories that don’t fit with what the news editor has come to think of as ‘news’ — him– or herself a product of the organisational setting. </p>
<p>Apart from the obvious ‘wow’ stories, I think that if there is any method in story selection, it’s a learned institutional process, and at times there is a methodical non-method when selection of news is based on the availibility of resources, time pressure, the interests of a particular news editor, ease of access — ‘we’ll use PA/PR/wires’ etc.  Some editors nevertheless continue to place faith in their ability to make what they see as objective news judgements — and they have to, in order to justify their editorial decisions.  </p>
<p>We can only benefit from hearing stories and news selections from people who are outside of the ‘news factory’, which is why blogs are so important to the future of media and perhaps why, as a recently qualified MA journalism student,  I’m already thinking about whether my future lies within a traditional news organisation.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Holmes</title>
		<link>http://adrianmonck.com/2008/06/interns-selecting-out-the-news/comment-page-1/#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Charlie Beckett&#039;s comment, &quot;we&quot; have a pretty good idea about the social composition of journalists because people like Tony Delano and Ian Hargreaves have researched it – and it looks pretty uniform. However, I agree that it is dangerous to extrapolate from the type of student we see at Cardiff and City; you only have to look at Westminster&#039;s intake to see a different demographic sample.

I also wonder whether it&#039;s true that organisations (and other journalists) will only select those who look and think like themselves. It may take some time but once an organisation realises that it needs people with different skills if it is to change and survive then it will actively seek them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Charlie Beckett’s comment, “we” have a pretty good idea about the social composition of journalists because people like Tony Delano and Ian Hargreaves have researched it – and it looks pretty uniform. However, I agree that it is dangerous to extrapolate from the type of student we see at Cardiff and City; you only have to look at Westminster’s intake to see a different demographic sample.</p>
<p>I also wonder whether it’s true that organisations (and other journalists) will only select those who look and think like themselves. It may take some time but once an organisation realises that it needs people with different skills if it is to change and survive then it will actively seek them out.</p>
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