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		<title>By: Stephen Thair</title>
		<link>http://adrianmonck.com/2008/06/the-case-of-the-disappearing-reed-elsevier-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Thair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly TheOpsMgr is moving on from Totaljobs, RBI and RE! Time for a change and hopefully find a role where I can put both my IT and MBA skills to better use.
So if anyone knows of any suitable jobs out there, please let me know at stephen DOT thair AT gmail DOT com.

Will blog for food ;-) 

thanks for your support over the whole blog issue, very much appreciated.

- Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly TheOpsMgr is moving on from Totaljobs, <span class="caps">RBI</span> and <span class="caps">RE</span>! Time for a change and hopefully find a role where I can put both my <span class="caps">IT</span> and <span class="caps">MBA</span> skills to better use.<br />
So if anyone knows of any suitable jobs out there, please let me know at stephen <span class="caps">DOT</span> thair <span class="caps">AT</span> gmail <span class="caps">DOT</span>&nbsp;com.</p>
<p>Will blog for food&nbsp;;-) </p>
<p>thanks for your support over the whole blog issue, very much&nbsp;appreciated.</p>
<p>-&nbsp;Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Private Frazer</title>
		<link>http://adrianmonck.com/2008/06/the-case-of-the-disappearing-reed-elsevier-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator>Private Frazer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone interested, I&#039;ve scraped the Google cache of the site and posted it here:
http://privatefraser.wordpress.com/divestment-watch/
I&#039;m also trying to link to any stories that concern the RBI divestment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone interested, I&#8217;ve scraped the Google cache of the site and posted it here:<br />
<a href="http://privatefraser.wordpress.com/divestment-watch/" rel="nofollow">http://privatefraser.wordpress.com/divestment-watch/</a><br />
I&#8217;m also trying to link to any stories that concern the <span class="caps">RBI</span>&nbsp;divestment</p>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
		<link>http://adrianmonck.com/2008/06/the-case-of-the-disappearing-reed-elsevier-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-759</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clarifying Steve. For the record, I still think it&#039;s shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying Steve. For the record, I still think it&#8217;s&nbsp;shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Thair</title>
		<link>http://adrianmonck.com/2008/06/the-case-of-the-disappearing-reed-elsevier-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-758</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Thair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone,

Just to clarify what happened... I was &quot;asked&quot; to take the blog down by my Director on behalf of unspecified people towards the top of the food chain. I don&#039;t know if they were RBI or RE but my assumption was that it was pretty close to Board level. 

I wasn&#039;t given any particular reason for why the &quot;request&quot; was sent, other than it was causing some waves. 

It would have been nice to have been engaged on a more personal level and told why the blog was causing waves and why that was enough to offset any value the blog may have as a communications and discussion channel. But sadly that wasn&#039;t to be. 

cheers,
Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&nbsp;everyone,</p>
<p>Just to clarify what happened&#8230; I was &#8220;asked&#8221; to take the blog down by my Director on behalf of unspecified people towards the top of the food chain. I don&#8217;t know if they were <span class="caps">RBI</span> or <span class="caps">RE</span> but my assumption was that it was pretty close to Board&nbsp;level. </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t given any particular reason for why the &#8220;request&#8221; was sent, other than it was causing some&nbsp;waves. </p>
<p>It would have been nice to have been engaged on a more personal level and told why the blog was causing waves and why that was enough to offset any value the blog may have as a communications and discussion channel. But sadly that wasn&#8217;t to&nbsp;be. </p>
<p>cheers,<br />&nbsp;Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
		<link>http://adrianmonck.com/2008/06/the-case-of-the-disappearing-reed-elsevier-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-754</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Messenger&#039;s comment very neatly encapsulates everything I was trying to say with my overly pithy original comment. If he hadn&#039;t revealed his identity he could have posted much worse, and it would have been very hard for anyone to stop him. Instead they have shut off an intelligent stream of conversation, leaving it open to others with much less understanding of the internal culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Messenger&#8217;s comment very neatly encapsulates everything I was trying to say with my overly pithy original comment. If he hadn&#8217;t revealed his identity he could have posted much worse, and it would have been very hard for anyone to stop him. Instead they have shut off an intelligent stream of conversation, leaving it open to others with much less understanding of the internal&nbsp;culture.</p>
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		<title>By: The Messenger</title>
		<link>http://adrianmonck.com/2008/06/the-case-of-the-disappearing-reed-elsevier-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-753</link>
		<dc:creator>The Messenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Killing Stephen&#039;s blog was really not a smart idea. He was providing intelligent comment on the divestment, and providing an outlet for others to do the same,  He was scrupulously careful not to stray from public domain facts, as you&#039;d expect from a bright MBA with a serious career.  So now the comment is instead being provided by national newspaper business writers who don&#039;t really understand RBI.  

Towards the end he ran a poll showing that 70-something per cent of respondents would acquire their own RBI product if it were broken out individually. A wildly hypothetical question, but a highly encouraging response from the point of view of Reed Elsevier - and one which the company couldn&#039;t possibly generate for itself. 

What may not be obvious to everyone is that Stephen is an IS manager from the TotalJobs side of the house.  I wonder if the company would have been as keen to jump on one of its journalists if they had run a similar blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killing Stephen&#8217;s blog was really not a smart idea. He was providing intelligent comment on the divestment, and providing an outlet for others to do the same,  He was scrupulously careful not to stray from public domain facts, as you&#8217;d expect from a bright <span class="caps">MBA</span> with a serious career.  So now the comment is instead being provided by national newspaper business writers who don&#8217;t really understand&nbsp;<span class="caps">RBI</span>.  </p>
<p>Towards the end he ran a poll showing that 70-something per cent of respondents would acquire their own <span class="caps">RBI</span> product if it were broken out individually. A wildly hypothetical question, but a highly encouraging response from the point of view of Reed Elsevier - and one which the company couldn&#8217;t possibly generate for&nbsp;itself. </p>
<p>What may not be obvious to everyone is that Stephen is an <span class="caps">IS</span> manager from the TotalJobs side of the house.  I wonder if the company would have been as keen to jump on one of its journalists if they had run a similar&nbsp;blog?</p>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
		<link>http://adrianmonck.com/2008/06/the-case-of-the-disappearing-reed-elsevier-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-750</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marty - I&#039;m sorry my comment offended you. 

I spent so long at RBI with so many people desperately trying to change a business into one that utilised things like blogging for the benefit of that business, that it makes me slightly sad (not smug) that someone (whoever it is - you&#039;re right, it could have come from any of those sources, which is something I didn&#039;t consider) should demand this be taken down

I&#039;d like to think that at the wrong side of 30 I&#039;m no longer jejune, and having been made redundant understand that occasionally reality does indeed bite. That doesn&#039;t change my opinion though,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty - I&#8217;m sorry my comment offended&nbsp;you. </p>
<p>I spent so long at <span class="caps">RBI</span> with so many people desperately trying to change a business into one that utilised things like blogging for the benefit of that business, that it makes me slightly sad (not smug) that someone (whoever it is - you&#8217;re right, it could have come from any of those sources, which is something I didn&#8217;t consider) should demand this be taken&nbsp;down</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think that at the wrong side of 30 I&#8217;m no longer jejune, and having been made redundant understand that occasionally reality does indeed bite. That doesn&#8217;t change my opinion&nbsp;though,</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://adrianmonck.com/2008/06/the-case-of-the-disappearing-reed-elsevier-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mother of God - I thought that we moved on from self-satisfied comments about &quot;getting it&quot; 18 months ago. Didn&#039;t think there were any jejune folks left out there who believed that anyone more - never mind son - you just pat yourself on the back and keep telling yourself you’re in the &quot;getting it&quot; club.

Outside of the smug confines of the latest catchphrases where reality bites:

We do not know that RBI or RE originated the removal request so speculation on this seems pointless. I&#039;d put a bet on it originating from the desk of a lawyer, but don&#039;t believe that we can say anymore than that.

The request could have come from - RBI, RE, UBS, JP Morgan, PWC or even a potential buyer. One of the last things Thair said was that he has contacted some of the PE companies rumoured to be bidding for RBI. Spooking potential buyers is bound to make everyone jumpy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mother of God - I thought that we moved on from self-satisfied comments about &#8220;getting it&#8221; 18 months ago. Didn&#8217;t think there were any jejune folks left out there who believed that anyone more - never mind son - you just pat yourself on the back and keep telling yourself you’re in the &#8220;getting it&#8221;&nbsp;club.</p>
<p>Outside of the smug confines of the latest catchphrases where reality&nbsp;bites:</p>
<p>We do not know that <span class="caps">RBI</span> or <span class="caps">RE</span> originated the removal request so speculation on this seems pointless. I&#8217;d put a bet on it originating from the desk of a lawyer, but don&#8217;t believe that we can say anymore than&nbsp;that.</p>
<p>The request could have come from - <span class="caps">RBI</span>, <span class="caps">RE</span>, <span class="caps">UBS</span>, <span class="caps">JP</span> Morgan, <span class="caps">PWC</span> or even a potential buyer. One of the last things Thair said was that he has contacted some of the <span class="caps">PE</span> companies rumoured to be bidding for <span class="caps">RBI</span>. Spooking potential buyers is bound to make everyone&nbsp;jumpy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
		<link>http://adrianmonck.com/2008/06/the-case-of-the-disappearing-reed-elsevier-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-747</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, your highlighting the fact that the blog still &#039;exists&#039; in the cache shows a whole other level of lack of understanding...

With regards to Adrian&#039;s comment, Scoble showed that internal blogging was not only possible but beneficial (before he went solo and started to believe his own hype that is...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, your highlighting the fact that the blog still &#8216;exists&#8217; in the cache shows a whole other level of lack of&nbsp;understanding&#8230;</p>
<p>With regards to Adrian&#8217;s comment, Scoble showed that internal blogging was not only possible but beneficial (before he went solo and started to believe his own hype that&nbsp;is&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our code of conduct forbids us from doing anything that damages the reputation of the company and, so far, we&#039;ve chosen to use that as the baseline of our blogging guidance. 

I suppose the problem is that we now have an essentially subjective standard. Something for us to do a little head-scratching to do internally over, I suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our code of conduct forbids us from doing anything that damages the reputation of the company and, so far, we&#8217;ve chosen to use that as the baseline of our blogging&nbsp;guidance. </p>
<p>I suppose the problem is that we now have an essentially subjective standard. Something for us to do a little head-scratching to do internally over, I&nbsp;suspect.</p>
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