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	<title>Comments on: Clay Shirky: wrong about newspapers</title>
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		<title>By: Time to move the debate about journalism&#8217;s future on &#171; The Martin Cloake blog</title>
		<link>http://adrianmonck.com/2009/03/clay-shirky-wrong-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-2976</link>
		<dc:creator>Time to move the debate about journalism&#8217;s future on &#171; The Martin Cloake blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One of my teaching colleges spoke of a frustration that &#8220;so much of the debate is consumed in negativity without giving any of the new young journos any interim navigating skills&#8221;, and I think some of that is driven by the tendency of so many journalists to re-invent themselves as expert commentators – something I refer to in the comments following a very good post by Adrian Monck in which he debunks some of the commentary. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] One of my teaching colleges spoke of a frustration that “so much of the debate is consumed in negativity without giving any of the new young journos any interim navigating skills”, and I think some of that is driven by the tendency of so many journalists to re-invent themselves as expert commentators – something I refer to in the comments following a very good post by Adrian Monck in which he debunks some of the commentary. […]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray! Great post. I couldn&#039;t agree more with this statement:

&quot;US newspapers began their relative decline because the lives of millions of Americans were changed by two things that defined the 20C - cars and television - and that decline started at the beginning of the 1970s.&quot;

This is such a basic point — yet one that is so often ignored in the debates around the decline of newspapers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray! Great post. I couldn’t agree more with this statement:</p>
<p>“US newspapers began their relative decline because the lives of millions of Americans were changed by two things that defined the 20C — cars and television — and that decline started at the beginning of the 1970s.”</p>
<p>This is such a basic point — yet one that is so often ignored in the debates around the decline of newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Seaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Seaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your take on this is good. I explore some more how Shirky is plain wrong on my PR blog here:

http://paulseaman.eu/2009/03/the-death-of-journalism-not-likely/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your take on this is good. I explore some more how Shirky is plain wrong on my PR blog here:</p>
<p><a href="http://paulseaman.eu/2009/03/the-death-of-journalism-not-likely/" rel="nofollow">http://paulseaman.eu/2009/03/the-death-of-journalism-not-likely/</a></p>
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